Everyone's Hypocrite

[beb]

i would like to inform you as of now being back in amarica for a week everyone's hypocrite is hard on work for album #2. we have allready written an entire new song. it came together so fast and smoothly that i would say it is my favorite song we have ever made. we still have tones of riffs left over and will continue on our journy into our E.H.'s next phase.

it will be something new, probably with a little more tallent , and it is going to plow all your soxes off!

watch out cuz everyone's hypocrite has 4 down and about 7 to go!

[Webmaster Gabe]

holy shit! i can't wait!!
wait so you have 4 songs for the next album? are they chicken tac, heart attack, temporary girl, and this new one? or are they a different four?

[drmoffitt]

last weekend we recorded 3 songs and we plan to make a 5 song demo with those songs and 2 old soongs. this demo will be handed out for free at all of our shows.

[Webmaster Gabe]

Oooh sounds killer. When can we expect this new demo?

[beb]

we just need to do some touch ups on the mixing. it will be done in probably a few weeks due to us not having control over when the mixing is finished because mike green has all of it.

Track Listing - (in no particular order)
1. Everyone is a Hypocrite (new recording)
2. Temp. Girl (new recording)
3. Heart Attack (new recording)
4. Force II (from the first album)
5. CodeName - Sub (from the first album)

[Webmaster Gabe]

a new recording of HEART ATTACK!? YESS!!! That is one of my absolute favorite EH songs of all time motherfucker. and codename sub? thank the lord. you guys know how to please your fans

[Aaron Campion]

so with everyones hypocrite becoming much more serious, hopefully you guys will be getting some fans! i mean, i dont consider people who are you close personal friends real fans, you know? but its going to be hard no matter what to get acceptance on crunchyco, since the people going to the music section are mostly chiptune fans. to be honest, you guys would probably do a lot better on some kind of underground punk label

[Evan Joseph-Pinero]

See, I think Everyone's Hypocrite, to me, is as much for the show as for the music.
While the music is definitely not bad at all, the live show is just what makes it work.

[Webmaster Gabe]

Totally agree. EH is all about the live performance.

[Fighter X]

Jul 5, 2008 20:34:53 GMT -5 Aaron Campion said:

so with everyones hypocrite becoming much more serious, hopefully you guys will be getting some fans! i mean, i dont consider people who are your close personal friends real fans, you know? but its going to be hard no matter what to get acceptance on crunchyco, since the people going to the music section are mostly chiptune fans. to be honest, you guys would probably do a lot better on some kind of underground punk label

Agreed. It's also a little strange how Everyones Hypocrite is on the same website as Sabrepulse, possibly the most well known and definitely most popular chiptune artist in the world. I'm also confused about Torture Division haha. Unfortunately, these two bands in my opinion bring nothing to the increasingly ever so mighty Crunchy Records.

[Aaron Campion]

yes, its definitely a complicated situation. on one hand, gabe would agree it would be nice to have crunchyco taken seriously and someday become successful and start making an actual personal profit from it. But on the other hand, Gabe would like an everyones hypo crunchyco profile because he personally enjoys them. i know they do not take themselves seriously, and do not expect anyone to like, and do not care if anyone likes them. with that being said, is it fair to put them on a website in which we are trying to bring as many people to as we can to that we know are not going to like everyones hypo, in fact we are not expecting to.

again, everyones hypo's profile kind of exists out of gabes personal selfishness. its mainly a bad thing because the music page is so incredibly popular and is the one reason people even come to crunchyco.com. i guess it would be like if lets say What a treat become incredibly popular. So popular that we eventually had 6 more artists that drew super cute, japanese looking fruit. And one of these artists was the single most respected, loved, and inspirational person at drawing cute japanese fruit webcomics. so lets say this comic section was the only thing popular and thats why over 500 people a day were coming to the website. does this mean i should have my own joke comic about a giant pulsating dick thats on a mission to remove its ingrown hair and spontaneously popping warts just because i personally like it? even though i know that noone else is going to like it? even though i know it sucks because i just scribble it really fast and i even know it sucks? i dont think it would be fair to the viewers to have to look at it, i should probably just put it on my own personal page somewhere else for just me to see. or maybe i should just put it on another website that has other big dick webcomics that fans come to that would actually appreciate it. i mean, what if the hugely popular comic's artist on crunchyco ever saw the big dick comic? i couldnt even imagine!

bottom line is not everything should just be put on the internet, especially if its not really intended for the target audience. maybe we need to start some kind of seal of quality at crunchyco? then anyone who comes would always know and expect quality. how about the crunch of quality?

and for the record, i know right now smuggling chewbacca is on the music page, and they by no means are very popular. that is why very shortly they and teethandfeet will be moved to the archive section (once it is created)

[Webmaster Gabe]

here's the real bottom line: It makes no difference whether Everyone's Hypocrite is on CrunchyCo or not. They may not boost our sales or traffic, but they certainly do not do any harm either. They are personal friends of ours who I personally enjoy. CrunchyCo is my website; I will have a profile page for them if I choose to. If no one looks at their profile or buys their CDs, it makes no difference. It's already tucked away in the "more music" page that was proposed by Aaron, hidden from the main view as not to cause confusion. It is very bizzare to me that anyone would make such a big deal about it, because it really is not a big deal at all. There's no reason to be so snooty about it. CrunchyCo is not a chiptunes label and it never was. We just so happen to have a lot of artists of that genre.

As for a "Seal of Quality", it's a good idea, I just don't really know how it would work... First of all, what makes our idea of quality so important? if something has the CrunchyCo seal of quality, what does that actually mean to the average user/buyer? Also, does it truly indicate quality, or just things that are popular? It seems to me like a seal of quality might be a little biased. Any kind of seal of quality would have to have very specific and unbiased criteria when deciding what gets marked with it. It could not discriminate against any genre, or favor bands that are more popular than others. I think it's a good idea, if it's done fairly. I would want to see a solid proposal for it outlining exactly how it would work and what the requirements would be, and what it would mean to the average person, and why we think we have the right to judge something as a quality release.

[Aaron Campion]

The bottom line is, anything put on crunchyco makes a huge difference. Any bad artist with no purpose is going add to an already cluttered list, and the only way for us to get respect would be to take this more seriously, and put a lot more thought into who gets put on crunchyco. We are not a joke of a label, and we dont want people to think we'll just slap our logo on just any crap.

Your answer for why they are on here not only is not only very poor, but quite stubborn. It is like if i said "mother, why do we still have dial up? it is obviously holding us back. shouldnt we have some kind of standard around here, how could you accept such a poor way to view the internet?" and the mother said "NOO! This is my house! We do what i want!"

Just as you i am personal friends with everyones hypo. It is very fun to enjoy a band that i personally know, i own both of their CDS, and they are my personal guilty pleasure. That being said, I can still have an open minded realistic conversation about them, and can admit that they are bad. They have openly stated that they know they are bad, they do what they please, and do not care if anyone listens to them or gets them. It is everything that they represent and are about! They are a parady of hardcore punk and dont expect anyone to like them or listen to them, and dont care. which is why it doesnt make any sense to put them on a site like crunchyco to begin with, it goes against everything they are even about! what is your purpose of having them on crunchyco? do you want people to actually listen to them? are you doing it for their so called fans? you yourself said you are putting them up for your own personal reasons. you need to make them a profile on your myspace page then, not a website you are making for a community of people from around the world to come to, enjoy, respect, and take seriously. it is very hypocritical for a band who is doing what they want just to have fun, openly doesnt care if anyone listens to them or likes them, and then be put on a website in which its sole purpose is for people to come and listen to and enjoy! Crunchyco is not and has never been just your site to throw on whatever you like. In fact, we've been extensively taking surveys the past few years and have moved in a direction chosen by our community of fans; Chiptune. Also, most of the newest artists have been found by myself and nick walthew, in addition to many aspects of the website brainstormed by the crunchyco staff. You simply stating that the website is yours to do with that you please is not only condescending, but i hope people believe think website is much more of an online community effort.

i in fact did not even intend this to be a debate with you gabe, we all in fact know your feelings on this. i more intended the rest of the community to give me their feelings on it, and especially everyones hypo themselves. For some bizarre reason you care so much if everyones hypo is on crunchyco, but i dont think they even really care. Everyones hypocrite has been here since the beginning, and that may be one reason you are so dear to the idea, like they are a very important piece of the building blocks of crunchy records. But remember, the original crunchyco also used to have a ban against homosexual viewers! I think we should have the decency to remove certain old traditions, like the old dildo for a mascot. Crunchy Co has always been about change, maturing, and continually ensuring quality more and more over the years.

Now, i do not want crunchyco to only be a chiptune label. This is obvious because we are working on a project for crunchyco that is in fact not a chiptune band! i think a seal of quality could basically be some sort of series of questions that would really direct the purpose of the bands presence on crunchyco; no matter what genre

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QWERY's test
1. Why should ___ be on crunchy records?

Qwerty is a fascinating project, started by the creative minds of Aaron Campion and Gabe Hayward, but also the incredibly skilled Nick Mcmanus, whos spent many years mastering the guitar and pushing it to its limits, along with others. Not only is this one of the most intense, thought out, intricate project to ever be a part of crunchyco, it is quite possibly the first band to ever bridge the gap between hardcore, gameboy chiptune, and death metal.

2. How will the current target audience on crunchy respond to ___ ?

Although the currents Crunchy Records Chiptune fans will mainly not enjoy Qwerty's death metal genre and sound, they will be able to really appreciate the intense, well programmed drums that not only never repeat, but completely change time more than 20 times per song, but will also be able to appreciate some of the most intricate guitar work they might possibly ever hear, and will noticeably push the quality and creativity normally heard with guitar work. Not only that, they will be able to appreciate the innovative use of samples, as well as use of incorporated LSDJ along with the death metal. This appreciation will continue the up most quality expected from the highly respectable crunchy records.

3. What does ___ have to offer crunchyco?

Because they are such an innovative project, their talent will show through and be successful in the metal community on myspace (hopefully). Then, by having demos and any other songs exclusively downloadable from crunchyco.com, they will help to grow the crunchy records community, bring nonchiptune fans to crunchy records that would not have heard of it any other way, and bring a better variety of music fans to crunchy records opening the potential for continuous success in other genres besides Chiptune.

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EVERYONES HYPOCRITE's test
1. Why should ___ be on crunchy records?

Because they are our personal friends and our personal guilty pleasures.

2. How will the current target audience on crunchy respond to ___ ?

Anyone who listens to everyones hypocrite on crunchyco will not only be very confused and slightly offended, but they will quite possibly question their respect and loyalty for crunchyco, and in the future may not try and listen to a band crunchy records is promoting in their main lineup of artists, out of fear. Hopefully the current audience already doesnt trust the quality on crunchyco and wont even listen to everyones hypocrite because everyones hypocrite are not bing added to crunchy records to be listened to. No one is going to understand them unless they move to marysville, get to know the members of the band for some time, see a show or two, hang out with the members some more, see another show, and even then they still might not understand or like it. And on another note, hopefully crunchy records current bands dont notice everyones hypocrite either because then they might be embarrassed of being on a net label with very low standards of acceptance.

3. What does ___ have to offer crunchyco?

Absolutely nothing. Everyones hypo does not intend to bring anyone to the website or sell anything, they intend to basically waste space on crunchyco, and clutter the shop page as well as the list of artists. Because they are a parody of hardcore and punk, the myspace community of people who actually like hardcore punk do not like them, and anyone else who doesnt like punk does not like them either because of their similarity to punk. Because of this, they will never help bring the punk community to crunchyco, mainly because of their simple musicianship, unserious theme, poor recordings, and weird combinations of not actually doing anything thats good about serious hardcore punk, beb playing indie sounding drums, the guitar sounding like pop punk blink 182 style, and confusing unclear goofy vocals.

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You yourself told the herald reporter that we want to someday become successful and make a living off of this type of thing, when are we going to start acting like it?

[drmoffitt]

wow.
i have somethings to say but i have to go to work. i just wanted to say before i went to work that EH's new stuff has a lot of potential. you're right that we've never had fans, but we've never never tried to get fans either.
thats going to change.

[beb]

this whole thread makes me very sad. of course i would love some of my music to be featured on this site. not only at this point will no one click on a link that says Everyone's Hypocrite but they arnt even going to click on the strange link that contains the link Everyone's Hypocrite. and that goes for all the other bands that are hidden in the now far to reach corner of crunchyco. only people very specifically trying to get to it or being directly linked to it will find those bands.

im also going to be very sad if i dont end up seeing your amazing hairy penis comic idea featured in the comic section. that sounds so amazing aaron. id be disappointed if it was never featured honestly.

one more thing . . . i dont think aaron is going to get us now. haha