How about a new forum?

[Fighter X]

First it was the chinese spambots, then Baboon Spam Division, and now WoWPoster. How much would it cost for You and Gabe to have your own forum annually? Is anyone annoyed by these spammers? Anyone else think proboards sucks anyway? I think a fresh spam-free totally "crunched out" forum created by Gabe and Aaron would be awesome and worth the little money it probably takes.

[Webmaster Gabe]

Nick, for the last time, BTD's post was not spam or anything close to spam robots or wow spammers. Just give up on that already, we get it, you don't like BTD, stop trying to convince everyone with your offbeat comments.

Anyways, Nick's right about the forum being fucked. I believe Seth was the first that brought this up in another thread. Then Spamtron re-suggested Seth's idea to me later. It's a great idea. I would love for the forum to be crunchyco.com/forum instead of crunchyco.proboards51.com. I too would like to have everything self contained. Seth was the one who was saying he'd be able to help with this. Can you tell us any more details seth?

[Aaron Campion]

gabe, "forum spam" is such a broad definition, really on 8bitcollective they kinda get ticked off when you even post a link to a downloadable program, even if its useful or on-topic. if all baboon said was they had a new release and you can find it if you want to on google, it would have been harder to classify it as spam, but since they linked to another website with their product on it, it can be classified as an advertisement, thus forum spam. but seriously Gabe, FOR THE LAST TIME, posting links to your downloads on forums IS NOT what ticks people off. its that baboon shows absolutely no interest in this forum or crunchyco, and the only posts they have ever made on this forum have been talking about and promoting themselves! and even so, if you must share something on this forum, it is especially unacceptable if it a bizarre, disturbing, noise / country music release that no one on this forum has interest in

forum spam - the posting of advertisements
an advertisement - a public notice, the action of making generally known

[beb]

oh geez here we go again . . .

[Aaron Campion]

is there a rule against posting 3+ pointless one sentence remarks that add nothing to the forum?

[Fighter X]

Sept 17, 2008 13:09:50 GMT -5 Aaron Campion said:

is there a rule against posting 3+ pointless one sentence remarks that add nothing to the forum?

No because Gabe does it almost all the time.

[emptythought]

i can help with this

i used to run both a phpbb, and then a vbulletin forum for my own site. and went through the entire process of setting it up, customizing the interface, etc. vbulletin is sliiiick, but it costs money.. and if you pirate they google around all the time every day and fire off messages to peoples hosts bitching at them about it. phpbb is completely free, pretty nice(i think proboards is based on it?) and ENTIRELY customizable in every way, whereas vbulletin has some stupid rules about what you can and can't change. there is of course other programs out there, but they're for the most part newer, buggier, expensive, or just too simple.

where is crunchyco hosted? because if it comes with php/sql(i haven't seen any hosting in years that didn't) then it's super easy to setup. you pretty much just download a zip, extract it, upload a folder, and go to a certain page where you punch in your account details and such.

Sept 17, 2008 12:32:12 GMT -5 Aaron Campion said:

on 8bitcollective they kinda get ticked off when you even post a link to a downloadable program, even if its useful or on-topic.

ugh. the more i hear about and read that site, the more it seems like it's full of pretentious assholes. seriously.

i mean, i know quite a few of them are probably great people, and great artists. but pricks nonetheless.

[Aaron Campion]

hahaha yeah, they get pretty pissed pretty easily! they just got mad at Nick in the 48 hour challenge thread hahaha

[Webmaster Gabe]

wow, i guess i spam my own forum all the time then. come on, we all know that nick is picking on baboon simply because he hates their music. he wouldn't be so mortified if it were a band that he liked doing the same thing baboon did so it's kind of silly to act as if his reasons are actually unbiased. it's also silly that we're still talking about this but at least it's conversation. Brandon's just needs to stop with those awful one-liners.

anyway, CrunchyCo is hosted at 1and1. They do have mysql support and such but I haven't really dug into it yet. i do want to have a nice integrated forum, and i assure you it will happen but it's just another thing on our list. it's not exactly a priority and i definitely am not willing to pay money for it. if someone wants to start working on something... *cough**cough* ..Seth.. *cough*, feel free. I don't know how developing it would work exactly though, especially if it's somehow integrated into the current site I think I'd have to be pretty involved so it's probably something that will have to wait.

What is so bad about proboards though? I can think of a few things:
1. forum spam robots (which could really occur on any forum system i would think)
2. advertisements (they really haven't bothered me and are actually kind of funny)
3. it's not fused to crunchyco.com (this is probably the worst thing about it really but only because of cosmetic and egotistical reasons.)

from what i see, proboards actually has a ton of great tools features and options and it displays a lot of information that i really like. it kind of seems like our own dedicated forum would end up having a lot of issues and bugs and also be really dumbed down unless we got really serious with it and took a huge chunk of time and energy doing it perfectly.

i do want to do it eventually, but it seems like changing over anytime soon would be way more trouble than it's worth when we have so many more important things we could be doing. is proboards seriously THAT bad and painful for people? i think it's been pretty good so far, especially since i don't pay a dime for it.

[Aaron Campion]

spamtron and seth are both pretty good at that stuff. and what about dylan? it could happen with their three powers combined!

[emptythought]

Sept 18, 2008 1:09:37 GMT -5 Webmaster Gabe said:

from what i see, proboards actually has a ton of great tools features and options and it displays a lot of information that i really like. it kind of seems like our own dedicated forum would end up having a lot of issues and bugs and also be really dumbed down unless we got really serious with it and took a huge chunk of time and energy doing it perfectly.

proboards is essentially based on phpbb as far as i can tell, which would have all the same stats and tools.

i don't really have that big of a problem with proboards though, my primary point was that it would be easy to not use it if you didn't want to. it might even be possible to transfer all the accounts/threads/posts from here, if proboards allows you to do that. i should look into that...

[Webmaster Gabe]

Sept 18, 2008 14:44:20 GMT -5 emptythought said:

it might even be possible to transfer all the accounts/threads/posts from here, if proboards allows you to do that. i should look into that...

that would be cool. then we wouldn't have to start over from nothing again. i like how even though there's like 8 people tops that actively post on here, there's been like 2500 posts! not much in comparison to other forums, but i'm proud of it anyway!

[Aaron Campion]

yeah, and out of 2500 Gabe has made 1000 of them alone

[Webmaster Gabe]

Sept 18, 2008 20:43:58 GMT -5 Aaron Campion said:

yeah, and out of 2500 Gabe has made 1000 of them alone

haha you're right!! haven't hit 1000 yet, but i'm getting there!

[seth]

yeah, i'd definitely be down to help. let me know what you need.