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Re: Portland Retro Gaming expo « Result #3 on Oct 7, 2009, 4:05pm »
it wasn't that great..lol.. Leeni was rad though, but by the time she went on, I wanted nothing more than to go home cause I was tired and it smelled like shit in the convention hall
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Re: Wacom « Result #4 on Oct 7, 2009, 4:02pm »
Thanks. The custom action figures are my job. each one is made and sold to collectors and toy companies, all are one of a kind (and very expensive..lol) http://www.kylerobinsoncustoms.com/
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Re: Chipfest 3.0 - Darmas « Result #6 on Sept 22, 2009, 3:52am »
By jove, celsius, perhaps we shouldn't be planning this event publicly on the internets afterall!
Thread locked.
Anyone who is actually involved directly with planning the event should go plan it in private. Feel free to start a new thread to be used for general event discussion and informational purposes only.
In my opinion, that kind of makes us look desperate and not very professional.
Dude... you're having a public discussion about event organisation (that should be discussed behind closed doors) in a thread called "Chipfest 3.0 - Darmas".
maybe do a fundraiser at GZ? if you can get a draw and its free it'd be a great spot.
That's what I thought the point was. I said I could get us booked for a fundraising show. P.S. they got a new sound system, and it is NOT sub-par. and even with the old, given the lack of sound problems i've encountered there I'd say its at least better than KTUBs. But anyway...
I don't see what the big deal is about spending to get bigger chiptune artists over here. Concerst or other people's funding, as long as its not some exorbitant amount out of my own pocket I say go ahead. If someone else wants to pay some or all 450 dollars for Bit Shifter's plane ticket that'll be sweet, and i'll at least buy him some beer or something. I just don't get the point of putting up an argument for something that's not at your own personal expense.
But I guess this all comes back to YOU then, Dakota. How much money are you willing to spend on this whole event? I like all your ideas and in a perfect world they'd be great, but let's face facts: You're talking about multiple days at a prominent venue, not just for a 3 hour show but all day for workshops and stuff as well, and you want to fly over multiple big chiptune artists, all expenses paid to play on their own night with out any local to even help draw them a crowd.
And you want to do this with either money straight from the pockets of more or less broke artists and musicians or from a most likely less than successful fund raiser show.
I honestly could set up a show like that at GZ, but there's no way we're making more than 80-100 dollars off of it, IF the line up was excellent, AND we weren't competing with anything else, AND we were incredibly lucky. It may even be closer to like 50 bucks.
Flying over 2-3 national/inter-national artists is going to add up to around 1000 dollars pretty quick.
Even cheaper venues like the LAB in Seattle have a 500 dollar overhead for shows, and you want the Vera, for at least 2 days.
Not trying to be a downer here, i'm just wondering if you have the money for all this or know where it'll come from. Then again I guess we are planning pretty far in advance, which is nice, but you know... thousands of dollars...
#1 names bring people. i know saskrotch brought out a few people who may not have came last year. the breakcore heads would not have bothered to show if it wasn't for him. i'm sure it wasn't a ton of people, but heads in the door = $$
Names can bring people, yes, but you said it right there, Saskrotch brought a few people. Was it enough extra to pay for his trip? Not even close. I mean, get Bit Shifter or whoever over here, sure, that'd be great, but I'm just saying to be prepared to pay out of pocket. If it will truly bring more people then do it. Just hope that your cost is > or = the money made from the show, which in all honesty, won't be.
#2 if no one shows and the parties a bust there is no money form admissions and no money from a merch table. if you have a guarantee for how much $$ they will get that's one thing but saying pay your way and you'll make your $$ off of something you can't control like merch and $$ is another
That's exactly my point though; if no one shows and the party's a bust, then obviously all that money spent on flying people over here wasn't worth it at all. If flying these people over actually will bring people like you say, then there should be no problem earning money back. In just about every venue I've ever played at, the general rule is that the artist is responsible for pulling in their own crowd. If the artist can't manage to pull a crowd or sell their own merch at their own show, then why exactly are they traveling and playing shows?
I think the artist just has to decide; is it worth it for me to spend money traveling to play this show? Will I make my money back? Some of it? Yes. All of it? Probably not. But will it still be worth it just to travel somewhere new and have fun spreading my music to some new fans? Of course it will.
As organizers of an event, we shouldn't be begging people to play and offering masses amounts of money for travel. In my opinion, that kind of makes us look desperate and not very professional. It should be the opposite; if we can present ourselves like we know what we're doing and portray a good enough image of this event, then artists should be the ones asking US to play at it.
How much is the fest going to cost people to get in anyways?
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